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it's the top of the hour. i'm jake tapper here in boston. this is a special edition of cnn newsroom covering the capture of the suspect in the boston terrorist attacks and the investigation. it's what we've all wanted to know since that horrible moment monday afternoon. police now say it looks as if the two bombing suspects acted alone. the investigation is still in high gear, but today people in boston can start trying to get past this terrible event. with four people dead and 200
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injur injured, it it will not be easy to do so. [ gunfire ] >> a hail of bullets as the las suspect held off police in a watertown, massachusetts, backyard as seen here in this cbs news photo. he used a boat to shield himself in the final standoff. when authorities captured him, they found him wounded drenched in blood. the police chief spoke with wolf blitzer about how it all went down. >> we had a couple thousand police officers on scene. the turnout was just incredible. the support that we got from the state and from the region. so we had the tactical people to be able to close that scene down and secure it it. we did take our time to be sure that everybody was safe in the nagd. eventually we had to use some
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flash-bangs to render the subject. it's a loud compression that would stun somebody for a short period of time. we began negotiations slowly over a 15-minute period we were able to get him to stand up and show us he didn't have a device on him. >> and it's far from over. we'll have more on the investigation and more about a possible motive. we'll also check in at the hospital where dzhokhar tsarnaev is listed in serious condition. the father of the bombing suspects tells cnn he's coming to the united states. he says his sons were framed and not responsible for the bombings. we were able to track down the father for the first time since the younger son was captured. nick payton walsh joins me. tell us about that encounter. >> absolutely.
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we have been waiting outside his apartment in dagestan. he drove past twice, but eventually stopped. it does appear the now deceased boston alleged bomber lived for six months last year. we went up to his car while he stopped and asked him a couple of questions. >> cnn. i'm so sorry. we just wanted to hear your story, that was all. it's a very difficult time for you. we just want to give you the chance to tell people how you feel about this. we don't really have a chance to properly hear all you have to say about the terrible circumstances you're in.
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your sons didn't do this? are you going to america? when will you leave? you will forgive me, sir. it's a difficult time, i'm just trying to do my job here. i understand. when was the last time you spoke to them? have you been in touch with the special services here? what do they have to say to you? okay, i understand. deeply uncomfortable there you can see a little angry in many ways facing those impossible questions about his sons and a situation that no parent could even really possibly imagine happen in their lifetime. jake? >> nick, before you go, a few questions. the father says he was
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questioned by russian security forces yesterday. he was released. what can you tell us about that? >> reporter: that was pretty standard around here. many witnesses say he was picked up last night in the evening, taken away as released and returned to his apartment. i asked him about it and he wouldn't say a word. this is a region where russian security services have tried to keep it incredibly tight. something like this is exactly the kind of thing. >> nick, thank you so much. stay safe. right now i have a police presenced in the hospital. it's where dzhokhar tsarnaev is recovering after being seriously injured. elizabeth cohen is outside that
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hospital. federal prosecutors are inside. could the suspect be charged today? >> you know, that's absolutely possible. well, maybe not today but certainly before he leaves the hospital. pamela brown spoke with the justice department official and they said it is quite possible he could be charged before he leaves the hospital. the big question is how long will he be here? all we know is he's in serious condition. i was there last night and heard all the gunshots. if he has gunshot wounds and possibly needed surgery, that recovery could take awhile. so we do know that federal law enforcement has been in there since last night and that they have been thinking about what kinds of charges they want to bring against him. it seems clear there will be federal charges and those will include terrorism. now we don't know exactly what's going on in there. we don't know anything beyond
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that he's in serious condition. we don't know any other medical or surgical details. jake? >> how intense is the security there? how does a hospital handle security for someone like this? >> it's very intense. there's a big police presence behind me. they are not even letting us go into the lobby to use the bathrooms or anything, which is unusual having done tons of stories like this. they usually let the media go in and out and get a cup of coffee. they reason even allowing that here. i was speaking with a doctor who frequently worked on inmates and suspects in another city. he said under these circumstances it was pretty likely that the suspect would be handcuffed to the bed and have two guards, one on each side of the bed, in addition to guards outside the door in the hallway. they are not going to leave anything to chance here. they want to make sure he doesn't hurt anyone or hurt
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himself. he's much more valuable alive than dead. >> elizabeth cohen, thank you so much. as we focus on this suspect and the evil he allegedly perpetrated, we should take a moment to remember his victims. the victims of the violence in boston. krystle camp bell, a restaurant manager. little martin richard, an 8-year-old from dorchester who liked to wear his red sox shirt to school. lindsey lu and then there's the latest victim officer sean collier, who was shot and killed in this thursday night shootout with the bombing suspects. right now 57 people are still in the hospital after monday's bombings. three of them are in critical condition. with the hunt over for the suspects, investigators are focusing on the full puzzle of what motivated these two brothers described by many people as normal. what mote tivated them to kill?
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early indications are that the two suspects acted alone. crime and justice correspondent joe johns joins me from washington, d.c. what is the fbi telling us about their prior questioning of the older deceased suspect? we know they put out a statement saying a foreign country, which we believe to be russia, expressed an interest in him. what exactly is the fbi describing about that event? >> they say they questioned him in 2011. they looked at telephone records. they looked at travel records. they did what they could, they say. and they went back to that country who asked for questions and said we haven't found anything. can you give us some more information? no more information was forwarded to the united states, so the fbi pretty much dropped it. this is pro forma, it happens again and again and again from year to year to year. so it's not unusual for this to happen. it's not unusual for that person
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to walk away because the fbi says they didn't find anything. >> joe, an intelligence source told me today that while it it may not be unusual for people to do this when it comes to al qaeda, it is rare for the russians to reach out because they suspect somebody who is developing an extremism in relation to chechen extremist groups. i don't know if the fbi feels like they have given all the information they need to give on this, but if i were a victim of the terrorist attack here and i heard that the fbi had been told about this guy by the russians, i don't think that press release they put out last night would be enough. do you get any sense from the fbi that they are aware that there are going to be a lot of questions for them about this? >> i think so. and i've asked today for the fbi to come on record and give us some more information about this individual, when they questioned him, why they decided that they
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had to drop it. but as you talked to authorities who have handled these kinds of requests before, they say it's all pretty common. now after the victims, i don't think anybody is saying that the victims ought not get more information about l situation. but the truth of the matter is that in the united states, the system is a little bit different from some other countries. you have to reach a legal standard to go forward with more investigation of certain individuals whereas other countries might be able to pretty much do anything they want. the united states if you don't meet a certain legal standard, then they are going to stop bothering you. otherwise, it's going to be considered government harassment, jake. >> speaking of legal standards, the decision was made to not read dzhokhar tsarnaev his miranda rights, at least not yet. can you explain a little bit
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more about that decision? i think a lot of people and others who expect when you get arrested you get yourmy r miran rights are surprised by this decision. >> to break down, everybody has seen when police arrest you, they always say certain words. which include you have the right to remain silent, anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. well they didn't do that in the case of this suspect. that's because there's something called a public safety exception. and the public safety exception simply says that if you're concerned that there's a plot that is still afoot, if you're concerned there's an emergency, that there could be bombs somewhere else, the authorities don't have to read you your rights at that time. and that's basically what they
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have decided to do. but they are still going to have to do it eventually. >> joe johns, thank you so much. it's one of the most visible signs that boston is beginning to heal. right now fenway park is alive with red sox fans cheering on their home team and their hometown. john berman, who is a boston red sox fan, joins me live at the ballpark. john, i will say that i have no problem rooting against the kansas city royals. so i'm with you in spirit today. >> jake, i think everyone is with us in spirit today. i think everyone is a red sox fan today. behind me in fenway park at this moment, a special pregame ceremony happening right now. they just played hall lieu ya and put images up on the screen. it was incredibly moving. they are paying tribute right now to the first responders and law enforcement officials here
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in the city. in some ways, the red sox sort of bookend this incredible week that's happened here in boston. the red sox played on patriots day last monday. the game let out, the team left, fans streamed out of here and shortly after that is when the bombings happened at the finish line of the marathon. the red sox left and went on a road trip. they haven't played a home game since the attacks and they had to cancel last night out of security concerns, but they are playing today and fans have been streaming in here behind me yelling as they see our cameras here in solidarity with each other and with the team. many people saying they felt it was important to be here for the city, for the people who suffered and really for themselves. and things like this are just symbols you see everywhere. signs that say boston strong. and indeed boston is strong today. the players themselves are wearing special jerseys. normally they say red sox on the front.
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today they say "boston." after the game, the players are going to sign these shirts and these shirts will be auctioned off for the one fund, that's to raise money for the victims many the city. the team has really raylied around the city in a show of support. it's been remarkable what they have done and it's remarkable what's going on behind me in that stadium. >> john berman, we're going to check back with you. it it must be very moving for you as a bostonian to be there. the question now is why? we'll dig deeper into what could drive two young people to set off bombs and how the fed's plan to get information out of the suspect. our live coverage cons, stay right here. can your longwear t 'til five o'clock? it will if it's new outlast stay fabulous foundation. it's a primer, concealer and foundation in one for all day flawless skin. new outlast stay fabulous from easy, breezy, beautiful covergirl.
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two brothers allegedly set off bombs at the boston marathon. it's a scene no one will forget. cnn national security analyst juliette is here with me. what kind of evidence may have they already gathered on dzhokhar tsarnaev behind the photographic evidence we have already seen. >> beyond anything acquired at the attack, they would have done a thorough review of their background and their travel records. so right now the question is did the older brother, who did he meet with on his foreign travels. it's pretty clear that the younger brother didn't have that many foreign connections. so he might have been influenced by the older brother. there's going to be a case against the younger brother. and then there's going to be an investigation to see foreign contacts and what did he do when
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he was abroad. a lot more to happen. and last night there were reports of an arrests in new bedford. there's going to be a bunch of activity many that regard to see if they had contacts or who their contacts were in america. >> let's be honest. you worked at the department of homeland security under president obama. the u.s. is often skeptical when the russians talk about chechen islamic terrorism because they think the russians are trying to bring the u.s. into a conflict that the u.s. does not play a role in. the fbi looking into the older brother is a concerning turn of events. we now know that the fbi had been alert bid the russians that this young man was an extremist, in their view, the older brother. what do you think is going on right now at the fbi?
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>> i think they are reviewing that investigation and who did it. i tend to be more cautious in terms of what happened and whether we would know things now. in particular because radicalization is really hard to say there's a moment in time when this happened and we could have stopped it it then. i've been through enough both disasters and all sorts of havoc in my life that looking back it's easier than in the moment. so the question is how many chechens did the fbi interview. if there were thousands, then it would be they were doing a sweep. if it was him in particular, what did they find and why didn't they find this? but right now the speculation about their radicalization is hard to come by. we interviewed a lot of the family members. there were clear dynamics within the family as well, which often come into play in some of these investigations. so right now the fbi will come out with information and that would be a key question to answer. but the idea if only they had done something better at that
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moment in time this could have been stopped. it seems obvious now, but we have to see what was determined and what did they determine at that time. >> very quickly, what are investigators, how are they trying to figure out motive? they didn't leave a message behind. >> motive is the hardest thing. we want to know why. was it the fact he couldn't get -- this is all based on reports right now and i'm a keen believer that what we know about them today will likely modify. even a week later sometimes things get unearthed. was it the fact the older brother couldn't get citizenship here. was it isolation, family die nam. ices or was it an ideology based on a terrorist group that motivated him to do what he did. all of those will be answered over time. we want a why and we want a why. sometimes those aren't always knowable. >> a the lot more to go on this. thank you. we'll be right back after
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jubilation last night, everyone showing boston's finest their the gratitude and support after last night's dramatic arrest of the boston marathon bombing suspect. i'm jake tap per in boston. with one terror suspect dead and one in custody, boston is a city that's finally exhale, but soon there will be questions. questions about how two bombs were set off at one of the world's premier sporting events and questions about how to keep everyone safe next time.
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dan donovan is the director for sport and entertain m. he's worked as a crowd safety expert for the olympics in sydney and in atlanta. thank you for joining us. could we have done anything different in boston? what did these suspects know that organizers did not plan for? >> i don't know if we can say they didn't plan for. it's a matter of we have a public gathering area much like olympicpark and the finish line in boston. and these individuals took advantage of a public gathering area that the event organizers did the best they could. the police had checked the exact area hours before the incident took place. so i'm not sure we can say they didn't do the right things. the question is what are we going to do in the future as it it relates to these areas? >> dan, one shoe bombing attempt
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mean. s that millions of people have to take off their shoes at airport for rest of our lives. now that someone has shown how this can be done with innocent-looking backpacks, what do you think possibly law enforcement experts might start recommending? we can't frisk people in backpacks walking down the street, but what can be done? what actions will be taken at future sporting events? >> i think the event organizers working with their contract security teams, working with the technologies available and working with law enforcement are going to look at the areas that are high concentration that are high risk areas. this incident on monday changed the risk profile for these events. just luk you mentioned the shoe bomber did for air travelers. . now it's going to be are we going to close off certain areas and make sure all guests are
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screened in those areas? are going to have to be ticketed or credentials? are we going to impact the businesses that look forward to the revenue? there's going to be a lot of challenges running events in these open environments like a marathon. there's 26 miles, it's going to be very difficult, but there are a the will the of things that event organizers working wi ini law enforcement can do. >> dan, thank you so much. the boston red sox are doing their part to help their hometown heal. how they are bringing a sense of normalcy to the city. we'll head back live to fenway park in a few minutes.
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welcome back to cnn's conning coverage of the terrorist attacks in boston. the city is beginning to return to normal and we can really get a sense of that at fenway park where the red sox are back in action today. before the first pitch, there was a solemn moment of silence. >> as we think of our 176 adults and children who were injured, including officer richard donahue, won't you join us as we observe a moment of silence, contemplation and prayer and in particular for the 58 who are still hospitalized.
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thank you. we wish each of you a speedy recovery. >> now let's go back to john berman a the ballpark. i'm wearing a red sox hat. i just want you to know that. >> that warms my heart, jake. in fact, behind me right now in fenway they are playing the song "dirty water" which the red sox theme song. it says i love that dirty water, boston you're my home. a lot of americans whether they have lived here or not are saying that boston you're my home. it was a remarkable ceremony here at the beginning of the game. the red sox brought out on the field the entire teams, the red sox and kansas city royals. they walked on to the field some victims of the bombing one week ago and paid tribute to first responders who were on the field.
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the governor, the police commissioner, all part of this remarkable celebration. and then what the red sox said really has become a new boston tradition as of a couple days ago when the boston bruins did it. the entire crowd sang the star spangled banner in unison. you're going to see that something ha happens almost forever here in boston. everyone came together. this is a piece of video we can't show you. the most boys strous moment when david ortiz took the microphone and swore in front of the entire crowd. by think he spoke for a lot of people. he said this is our blanking city. that was david ortiz. and people are holding signs that say "boston strong reque."s that's what people are feeling behind me. >> a wonderful moment at fenway park. we'll come back to you later
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this afternoon. now turning to the subject of domestic terror, it poses a challenge for my administration. security expert jim walsh will join me next to talk about the obama team's handling of the bombings. are you still sleeping? just wanted to check and make sure that we were on schedule. the first technology of its kind... mom and dad, i have great news. is now providing answers families need. siemens. answers.
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welcome back to cnn's continuing coverage in boston. the suspect's uncle is speaking out. he told cnn more about tamerlan and dzhokhar tsarnaev. yesterday he called them losers, but today he's taking a different tone. let's take a listen. >> i'm relieved that he's alive. first of all for that there's
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now a chance to find out who was behind it. who were their mentors of all of it. and how possibly could he get involved and do this harm to innocent people. and second of all, i stress that there's a chance for dzhokhar to seek forgiveness. >> that was the boston bombing suspect's uncle talking about his nephew. emotions are still running high here in boston and elsewhere now that the surviving bombing suspect is in custody. there may be a temptation to rush to judgment. jim walsh is a national security expert. this is your home. how has this affected you personally? >> personally i have run the gam et of emotions. shock, anger -- >> it took place on your campus.
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>> a fellow employee at m.i.t. was killed two blocks from my office. i was teaching that day. and also i have had different emotions. i done know that i'm still fully aware of where i'm at on this. when i saw the first video of the two suspects, that had an impact on me. it was chilling. before we talked about them as a category. thirp terrorists or they were lone wolves. but to see a human being walking down that street in that video was chilling. i have been overwhelmed by sadness. sadness for the victims, sadness for the parents. it's a terrible thing that didn't have to happen. i think sadness is the overwhelming emotion i have been feeling recently. >> president obama spoke yesterday and he talked about boston's resilience and praised law enforcement. but there was something else he said that struck you. >> absolutely. in a different life i used to work on the problem of hate
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crimes. sandwiched in between was an important line not only should we avoid rushing to judgment about motivation, but we shouldn't blame entire groups. that really stuck out at me in between the other stuff. sadly after 9/11, some people's anger turned to revenge or used it as an opportunity to advance a political agenda. three groups are vulnerable right now because there were hundreds of hate crimes. and those groups would include muslims, immigrants. today we had comments in the boston newspaper say unpleasant things about immigrants. and finally, sikhs. you may recognize them walking down the street with a turbine or head dress. they are not muslim, they are sikh. they are from india. >> even if they were muslim, no judgment. >> to attack someone because they look different. i think we're enjoying an
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important moment here in boston and in the united states. if we don't want to tarnish that moment, then we all have to keep our eyes open not now just for the suspects, but eyes and ears open in case we hear something that's hateful that might lead to an act of violence. i hope we avoid that. >> extremism, for whatever reason, is extremism. >> these are all innocent people just as the folks on marathon day were innocent. >> let's talk about the larger issue of the obama administration and their handling of this horrible crisis. as an analyst, with what do you think? how did they do? >> at least from the outside, and we aren't going to know for another six months or a year when there are reports written, but i was there on 9/11. i was in front of a camera on 9/11. it felt a real change. the training and the investments and the practice and the work all came together. i thought people -- it was
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sobering. the city of boston responded. . everyone stayed indoors. everyone did what they were told to do. at least so far, yes, mistakes were made. but in the big picture, they did extremely well. >> and you could also see the results of 9/11 in sense of boston is a real, for lack of a better term, a surveillance city. there are cameras all over the city and those cameras, whatever you think of them in terms of civil liberties, those cameras helped the investigation. >> and there are a lot of things that exist today that didn't exist on 9/11. facebook, camera phones that take pictures. people are taking pictures at the finish line. there's a lot more data to help law enforcement than a decade ago. >> thank you so much. good luck and i know boston and m.i.t. will be back to what they were if not stronger. as the town recovers, still many questions linger. we'll hear from an emergency
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fertilizer plant blew up in the town of west, texas, rocking homes 50 miles away. authorities are still treating the location as a crime scene. search and recovery efforts are to wind down today. 14 bodies have been recovered. five of them killed were voluntary firefighters. emergency worker bruce reid spoke to anderson cooper about the horrific explosion and aftermath. take a listen. >> i can tell you that there's absolutely no words that i possess that can convey adequately what i saw. i can tell you what i saw last night was -- it went from my hometown and my existence to a war zone in an instant. i don't -- i guess i haven't
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even had time to process it it y yet. >> your house is gone? >> gone. the pressure from blast actually blew the doors off the hinges and my daughter's room has glass frag ms embedded in the wall. it's gone. >> you lost friends, colleagues, close friends. >> yeah. many. i woke up this morning with a changed reality that i'm never going to feel safe. being with the ems you don't know how people get your phone numbers and i'm on the board with west and that's why i'm speaking with you. with west ems i have received phone calls from london, from saudi, from australia, from south africa. literally all over the globe of had outpouring of support and
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it's absolutely amazing. >> that's been important to you? >> yeah, i mean that's what we. ed to convey or that i wanted to convey as a member of west ems. >> you can feel that support? >> it goes beyond that. whenever you are at the worst time in your life that nobody can understand and you're in the one place that means everything to you and you realize that the entire world takes a pause to say we're sorry and is there anything we can do to help is all the way to ground zero every one of us are incredibly humbled and grateful for that outpouring of support and thanks and love.
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in a situation like this, you feel like you're alone, but it is incredibly humbling to have everything that everyone has an that has done for us. i don't know where to begin in saying thank you and i don't know where to begin in saying, you know, we are west. >> everybody is a volunteer here, fire department, ems. people who didn't have to go to that blast went to that blast. people who could have, you know, stayed at home didn't have to go. >> they were all volunteer. there was not one person, there was not one person that got paid, not one person that was told. they all just went. >> people went knowing that could blow.
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>> it's our job. when other people are running away, by nature, our job is to run towards what people are running away from because we have to do what we have to do. and by nature that's what we do. >> that was anderson cooper with west texas paramedic bruce reed. people are waiting for the all clear to return to their homes. the horror in boston began monday and ended last night with gunfire. we have it all on tape coming up, an exclusive look at the final moments when the authorities finally got their man. we'll get back to special live coverage from boston next. ♪
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welcome back to cnn's continuing coverage of the crisis or terrorist attack in boston. boston is a city that's been through a lot this week, the ordeal began monday of course. last night after days of anguish it ended rather quickly, but certainly not quietly. brian todd now with a recap of the final moments of the standoff that brought down the surviving boston terrorist attack suspect. >> reporter: in the end, after the gunfire and the flash bangs, authorities showed their determination to capture dzhokhar tsarni alive. he was hold up inside a both in watertown. we snaked through alleys and back lots to get near the boat. as we shot exclusive video, police rushed us saying we were in the crossfire zone. >> clear out, okay?
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come on, i said please. >> reporter: minutes later they captured tsarnaev. he had put up a fight in the backyard, engaging them with gunfire. the entire neighborhood was on lockdown. residents terrified as law enforcement went door to door. after the standoff, we spoke to neighbors. here on cyprus street, this is one of the houses police were combing through the neighborhood looking for the suspect. this is eddie beck's house, he took us through what it was like when s.w.a.t. teams came through. >> they searched living room, dining room, went through the bedrooms, bathrooms, kitchen area. >> they searched cabinets? >> no, didn't go through cabinets, went through the bedrooms, closet doors, made their way through the back. >> reporter: beck shared his own footage of the s.w.a.t. team combing through the house. during this, they didn't know where tsarnaev was. he got a chill thinking about
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it. >> knowing they had him surrounded and close to our neighborhood, made us think he might have been here at nighttime and they kind of flushed him out into that area. >> reporter: vivian stevens lives by herself, also very close to the house where tsarnaev was cornered. >> i heard a boom, didn't know what it was, then heard a lot of gunshots. it happened like right behind my house. >> reporter: how do you feel now that it is over? >> it is surreal. i think i am numb. i don't really feel -- i guess i can't believe all this has happened. i know it is happening, but i mean, i am very happy that, you know, it is over and they got him. >> reporter: a sentiment echoed by her neighbors in watertown, cheering police as they pulled out after the arrest. brian todd, cnn, watertown, massachusetts. >> reporter: now that the hunt for the suspects is over, the search for answers about motive intensifies. the latest on the bombing
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